Critiquing My Book! w/ Claire Paice Live at IABF 2019

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at the LA independent art book fair and

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she's gonna give me a proper critique on

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one of my books which is coming out it's

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like almost done but I don't know what

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to do with the next so I'll show you

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Chris the cover you like two people said

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that it was like a little too garish I

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actually well this is the one that I

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ended up going with not totally sold on

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it but this is the front cover than the

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back my father holding up against his

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chest which also has the same over his

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heart and I just thought is such a great

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photo and my favorite cousin ever taken

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and I didn't want to have it black and

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white

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so maybe it's so I want to show you the

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original and the way that I'd like to

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look at them in black or white this is

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just the Billy go under here under

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system preferences Baldy

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and you can give me your opinion about

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they know you think it's better in

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grayscale

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weather's great

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I actually series that we working for

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since 2014 like tip ticks and intimacy

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tip ticks he had giving two things

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it's not a blog or a bird it's a bird

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it's easier to tell and also this is a

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pretty large book this is all I mean how

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important is to and I tried pretty hard

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I was really about perspective when I

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was ranging them so I wanted to have

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like photos where you're looking up to

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be at the top of the page and photos

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where you're looking down to the bottom

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and to like really kind of put you into

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my eyes

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this man is is one of the things my my

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dad loves photography he got his work in

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we bonded over this it's like biggest

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calming experience it added a decade and

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we would get up at like 4:00 in the

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morning to go photograph sunrise at the

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beach documenting so there's this sense

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of repetition definitely you'll see

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things that are like photographed and be

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photographed I enjoy yeah I really enjoy

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when there's

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there's almost like an obsession yeah

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like whether you're like why are you

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going I always was so pretty when they

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put the fights on the palm trees I tend

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to be a little self-indulgent with my

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work writin include a lot of over 50

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photos and knowing that this is taken in

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chronologically actually do feel a

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narrative I think I've just realized

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time to decide whether I should writing

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about it you know I don't want how much

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how much about text it's always a tricky

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question like what information is

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there's a lot of birds actually that's

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really important three photos they pay

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off with that but those are the ones

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that like organize me to do

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enjoy this image right yeah sort of feel

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like that fish is giving you there's so

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different in color this was my dad like

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like Chanti rich things and this is like

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near the riches first like the most

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expensive house ever sold American

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like you like made us drive there and

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he's like kind of photographing and I

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felt really weird about it that's a

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really what it tracks into those places

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money like the idea people having lots

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of money I love this photo here on the

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right some of my favorite photos like I

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kind of feel like that's a cover getting

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hand reaching it yeah I appreciate I

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like anything that that makes you

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there's a lot of nostalgia on this trip

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we went to other cloud world and that's

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because I went there when I was growing

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up with my grandfather

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I probably just had to be somewhere

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this is nice I don't know if you noticed

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you have this really beautiful line that

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comes through the branch sure I mean it

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all takes pretty much place in Pompano

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I've always loved this port on the right

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first I like to put them away

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I wasn't eventually asked the couple

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well that's something sort of

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why did you why did you pick this one on

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the left

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it felt the same way I don't want to

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like talk over the work for this idea of

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like like reaching for something and

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wanting for something and feeling like

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you have like this road to get there but

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you obviously can't and it's like this

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idea that you know like over there

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here we go so we go up on in the morning

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to go to the beach to photograph the

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sunrise and then on to the balcony to

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photograph at sunset

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are these the first photos taken on

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cleanup gosh gonna learn you're crazy

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color so that spot on the left here if

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we photograph that a quite a few times

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over there yes let me keep returning to

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it and then I remember this specific

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moment I was teaching my dad how to hold

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a camera steady you've gotta stop

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thinking that he would take then we

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traded cameras then I took a phone there

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he is

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everything I know I've been like

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psychologically thinking about it never

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his face only came in the distant parts

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of his body like so distorted what kind

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of yeah that's an interesting point

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again that's one of the things that like

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I'm excellent began we're reaching the

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end I was really thinking if this is a

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really nice metaphor it's like you've

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had this chance to relax with you're not

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there

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a while ago there's something I love

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about I mean one of the things I made

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this book in an afternoon

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it's very intuitive I'm trying to become

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more yes this is the end of these two

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photos of them one more at the end so

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whose last photo taken locations and

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what drives me nuts here is this photo

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here on the left

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I love this photo

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I love the pointing in the direction

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that it makes with this bird over here

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and these dangling thing over here on

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the top where it makes them feel so

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squished so caged and then what you're

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looking at on something that's so free

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and it's like to me it yeah it like it's

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a perfect ending to it the only thing is

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most people are not macabre just random

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people and so I have this entire book

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but the only person is my father one

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selfie in a mirror like in a reflection

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and then two random people

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and it just kills me I am leaning

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towards they shouldn't make ya thought

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as well I think the symbolism of the

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Poynting doesn't quite work yeah he was

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pointing but he was plenty behind me and

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I just gotta grab these guys inside um

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because I think even without it these

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two images are actually full right here

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do you think you can just get rid of

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this

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I'm gonna have the extra space in the

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background it's something that I thought

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some of the idea that thought of like

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sharpening them out I'm just having the

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body looks like weirder like I'm it's

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been the big fires of I mean I made this

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I made this book in one day back in

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December for months now it's done focus

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tonics and let me also just show you

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very quickly what it looks like in color

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and you can just go qu please don't do

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that all right

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you know it's already so good it's so

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different you're able to tell it's hard

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because the seeing color is quite

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beautiful

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yeah I know what's a lot of the other

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things is the price of printing the book

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and all these stay together the price of

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printing the book other is going to be

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significantly higher with the price of

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Sun and long see with this you can

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really tell that gets hard on the right

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so much better the colors do make it

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it's a tricky thing more of a journey

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and here

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I was thinking about and I have somebody

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makes you I love this like making

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vectors addition that's in color then I

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hate the idea like to think I'm kind of

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fun the mistake actually acting out that

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you're then it makes me feel like if you

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buy the knowledge and you're getting

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something cheaper today it is true

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though you know the color guys

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which one really it's very dark start

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right sort of good to be it's strange

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right

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it's that color green I'm never sure how

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to interpret it

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yeah I can understand like I think this

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one here where it's green on the right

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and then the green where you just don't

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have I get to make visual sense so yeah

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I've been leaning towards black and

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white as well but I also want the POTUS

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to exist somewhere for me color is such

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a huge part of my work always like I'm

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missing a limb but I also feel like part

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of the book is giving like every single

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part of the book does everyone I showed

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it to said oh god no really

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and I wonder if maybe it I kind of

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agreed the criticism didn't match salt

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you know maybe go back and we can see

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I like the idea of like a super vibrant

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color ever good like all black of my

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photos for no I haven't actually been to

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the coop of it yet up and down but

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really you only see this on the cover

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maybe Michael watch tango or something

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what title never knows best back

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it doesn't really relate to anything

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with my dad at all okay it's just

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there's no meaning behind it but it's

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written on I'm the character who's an

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orphan she's she's been recently

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orphaned and she has a cigarette

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he doesn't make sense with my dad to

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pick up

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yeah is there anything else that maybe I

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like shouldn't I think maybe I should

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explain that system and there were like

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the rules or restrictions when I was

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making order when I I want them to be

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arranged up here down I didn't want any

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quarters

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oh thank you so much maybe next pair

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you'll get to see this