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at the LA independent art book fair and
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she's gonna give me a proper critique on
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one of my books which is coming out it's
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like almost done but I don't know what
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to do with the next so I'll show you
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Chris the cover you like two people said
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that it was like a little too garish I
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actually well this is the one that I
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ended up going with not totally sold on
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it but this is the front cover than the
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back my father holding up against his
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chest which also has the same over his
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heart and I just thought is such a great
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photo and my favorite cousin ever taken
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and I didn't want to have it black and
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white
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so maybe it's so I want to show you the
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original and the way that I'd like to
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look at them in black or white this is
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just the Billy go under here under
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system preferences Baldy
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and you can give me your opinion about
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they know you think it's better in
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grayscale
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weather's great
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I actually series that we working for
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since 2014 like tip ticks and intimacy
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tip ticks he had giving two things
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it's not a blog or a bird it's a bird
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it's easier to tell and also this is a
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pretty large book this is all I mean how
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important is to and I tried pretty hard
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I was really about perspective when I
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was ranging them so I wanted to have
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like photos where you're looking up to
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be at the top of the page and photos
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where you're looking down to the bottom
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and to like really kind of put you into
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my eyes
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this man is is one of the things my my
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dad loves photography he got his work in
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we bonded over this it's like biggest
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calming experience it added a decade and
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we would get up at like 4:00 in the
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morning to go photograph sunrise at the
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beach documenting so there's this sense
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of repetition definitely you'll see
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things that are like photographed and be
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photographed I enjoy yeah I really enjoy
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when there's
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there's almost like an obsession yeah
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like whether you're like why are you
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going I always was so pretty when they
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put the fights on the palm trees I tend
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to be a little self-indulgent with my
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work writin include a lot of over 50
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photos and knowing that this is taken in
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chronologically actually do feel a
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narrative I think I've just realized
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time to decide whether I should writing
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about it you know I don't want how much
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how much about text it's always a tricky
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question like what information is
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there's a lot of birds actually that's
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really important three photos they pay
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off with that but those are the ones
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that like organize me to do
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enjoy this image right yeah sort of feel
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like that fish is giving you there's so
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different in color this was my dad like
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like Chanti rich things and this is like
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near the riches first like the most
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expensive house ever sold American
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like you like made us drive there and
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he's like kind of photographing and I
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felt really weird about it that's a
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really what it tracks into those places
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money like the idea people having lots
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of money I love this photo here on the
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right some of my favorite photos like I
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kind of feel like that's a cover getting
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hand reaching it yeah I appreciate I
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like anything that that makes you
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there's a lot of nostalgia on this trip
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we went to other cloud world and that's
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because I went there when I was growing
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up with my grandfather
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I probably just had to be somewhere
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this is nice I don't know if you noticed
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you have this really beautiful line that
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comes through the branch sure I mean it
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all takes pretty much place in Pompano
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I've always loved this port on the right
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first I like to put them away
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I wasn't eventually asked the couple
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well that's something sort of
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why did you why did you pick this one on
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the left
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it felt the same way I don't want to
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like talk over the work for this idea of
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like like reaching for something and
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wanting for something and feeling like
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you have like this road to get there but
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you obviously can't and it's like this
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idea that you know like over there
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here we go so we go up on in the morning
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to go to the beach to photograph the
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sunrise and then on to the balcony to
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photograph at sunset
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are these the first photos taken on
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cleanup gosh gonna learn you're crazy
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color so that spot on the left here if
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we photograph that a quite a few times
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over there yes let me keep returning to
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it and then I remember this specific
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moment I was teaching my dad how to hold
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a camera steady you've gotta stop
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thinking that he would take then we
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traded cameras then I took a phone there
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he is
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everything I know I've been like
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psychologically thinking about it never
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his face only came in the distant parts
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of his body like so distorted what kind
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of yeah that's an interesting point
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again that's one of the things that like
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I'm excellent began we're reaching the
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end I was really thinking if this is a
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really nice metaphor it's like you've
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had this chance to relax with you're not
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there
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a while ago there's something I love
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about I mean one of the things I made
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this book in an afternoon
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it's very intuitive I'm trying to become
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more yes this is the end of these two
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photos of them one more at the end so
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whose last photo taken locations and
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what drives me nuts here is this photo
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here on the left
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I love this photo
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I love the pointing in the direction
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that it makes with this bird over here
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and these dangling thing over here on
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the top where it makes them feel so
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squished so caged and then what you're
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looking at on something that's so free
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and it's like to me it yeah it like it's
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a perfect ending to it the only thing is
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most people are not macabre just random
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people and so I have this entire book
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but the only person is my father one
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selfie in a mirror like in a reflection
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and then two random people
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and it just kills me I am leaning
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towards they shouldn't make ya thought
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as well I think the symbolism of the
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Poynting doesn't quite work yeah he was
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pointing but he was plenty behind me and
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I just gotta grab these guys inside um
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because I think even without it these
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two images are actually full right here
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do you think you can just get rid of
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this
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I'm gonna have the extra space in the
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background it's something that I thought
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some of the idea that thought of like
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sharpening them out I'm just having the
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body looks like weirder like I'm it's
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been the big fires of I mean I made this
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I made this book in one day back in
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December for months now it's done focus
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tonics and let me also just show you
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very quickly what it looks like in color
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and you can just go qu please don't do
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that all right
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you know it's already so good it's so
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different you're able to tell it's hard
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because the seeing color is quite
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beautiful
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yeah I know what's a lot of the other
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things is the price of printing the book
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and all these stay together the price of
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printing the book other is going to be
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significantly higher with the price of
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Sun and long see with this you can
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really tell that gets hard on the right
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so much better the colors do make it
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it's a tricky thing more of a journey
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and here
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I was thinking about and I have somebody
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makes you I love this like making
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vectors addition that's in color then I
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hate the idea like to think I'm kind of
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fun the mistake actually acting out that
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you're then it makes me feel like if you
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buy the knowledge and you're getting
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something cheaper today it is true
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though you know the color guys
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which one really it's very dark start
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right sort of good to be it's strange
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right
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it's that color green I'm never sure how
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to interpret it
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yeah I can understand like I think this
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one here where it's green on the right
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and then the green where you just don't
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have I get to make visual sense so yeah
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I've been leaning towards black and
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white as well but I also want the POTUS
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to exist somewhere for me color is such
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a huge part of my work always like I'm
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missing a limb but I also feel like part
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of the book is giving like every single
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part of the book does everyone I showed
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it to said oh god no really
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and I wonder if maybe it I kind of
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agreed the criticism didn't match salt
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you know maybe go back and we can see
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I like the idea of like a super vibrant
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color ever good like all black of my
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photos for no I haven't actually been to
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the coop of it yet up and down but
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really you only see this on the cover
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maybe Michael watch tango or something
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what title never knows best back
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it doesn't really relate to anything
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with my dad at all okay it's just
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there's no meaning behind it but it's
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written on I'm the character who's an
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orphan she's she's been recently
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orphaned and she has a cigarette
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he doesn't make sense with my dad to
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pick up
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yeah is there anything else that maybe I
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like shouldn't I think maybe I should
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explain that system and there were like
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the rules or restrictions when I was
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making order when I I want them to be
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arranged up here down I didn't want any
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quarters
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oh thank you so much maybe next pair
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you'll get to see this